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"Trump and Musk are self made business men"

Hey we are just having a conversation and we both agree on a lot of things but this is an incorrect statement....About both Trump and Musk.

Musk took tens of Billions from the United States goverment (ie: Taxpayers) to get both his Space X and Tesla companies started..

Read this 100% true article (Cnn is correct on this one)


https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/20/business/elon-musk-wealth-government-help/index.html

Re: Trump

Look I speak the truth even though I like Trump..

I am telling you right now that Trump is NOT a self made business man who made billions on his own either....

First off he inherited tens of millions (probably 100 million) to start off with....

Secondly, nobody has used the political system and politicians better than Trump over the past 50 years.... He has 50 years worth of experience of giving kick back and bribe money to these politicians...

Trump would not have been able to build one building without soaking up to politicians...

The fact that Trump calls himself a "Non Politician" is a complete and total lie...Trump is in fact the ultimate politician.. Trump has ALWAYS played both sides of the political field for his own benefit...

The biggest myth of all time is that Trump was some kind of self made billionaire who was once a poor kid from Queens..

Its a bigger myth than Santa Claus.. My daughter stopped believing in Santa at around age 8..

For the record, we are just all pawns for all of these people. Especially for Trump and Musk now...


Re: Johnson being bounced

Trump is responsible for Johnson still being there..

He campaigned for Johnson at his rallies and told everyone in his state to vote for him....Trump spoke and the people of Johnsons home state did as they were told...Johnsons home state is Louisiana which is about 99% Trump country...

Trump has done this numerous times with numerous scumbags..

Lindsay Graham was practically dead and buried 2 years ago until Trump saved his ass too....

Trump did all of this. Trump promoted and gave us these people..

At least I speak the damn truth...

Btw,

When I say that someone takes money from the government, that means they take OUR MONEY to become rich...Some sleezebag politician (who no doubt gets a kickback from Trump and Musk) gave them our money...

Thanks for posting this. People don't seem to understand that what matters here is integrity of the justice system. They don't have to like Chauvin to see that the man isn't guilty by legal definition. The jurors said that Chauvin didn't aid Floyd when he was clearly struggling. He did. 911 was called immediately. They went to the wrong address, delaying their arrival by 10 minutes. It may have been a little more or less on the time but it that range.

I can relate to everything you are saying. The bill Johnson was pushing was so egregious, he should have been bounced out on his ear. If your neighbor bashed in the windows of your car, you wouldn't politely ask him not to do it again and then have him over for a bbq.

Where we differ on your post is that it matters how wealthy Trump and Musk are. They are self made business men, not a typical politian that went into "Public service" and became a multi millionaire. I want someone who has been highly successful running our country. I do believe their intentions are to make America great again...or, at least, a lot better than it is now.

Yes that is the quote. (The most recent endorsement of Johnson) but Trump has endorsed Johnson dozens of times over the past few months.. Trump either doesnt know what he is doing or he is purposely making the same exact mistakes he made during his first term..

We are basically powerless against these tyrants in Washington... They steal, lie, rape and murder at will. Literally. Can you imagine having a tax payer slush fund that secretly pays off all their sexual assault victims?

Who has ever heard of such a thing?

We have the same problems today as we did during the Revolutionary War...Where 97% of the people sat on the sidelines while 3% did all the fighting....

Our government has officially collapsed and there is nothing Trump can do about it..Of course none of this will effect Trump/Musk financially..But it effects everyone else...

Here is the thing the makes me laugh...

We have all been taught from grade school how America is the best country in the world, our government is the best and all the other countries are the bad guys with bad governments...Yada, Yada, Yada. .

How dare they lie to us....We are the bad guys..

Btw,

This is VERY important to remember....Not only is Johnson a really bad guy....Not only did Trump fully endorse this guy.....Not only has he backstabbed Trump and the American people several times now....Not only is he compromised meaning they (big lobbies, Democrats etc) have a lot dirt on this supposed "Christian".....But here is the worst part.....

They WONT be able to get rid of him when they vote for the speaker of the house in a couple of weeks.....The Democrats WILL make a deal with him in return for their voting for him.... So no matter how many Republicans vote against Johnson, he will still become Speaker of the house....

People forget how important a position this is.. Speaker of the house is not third in line to the Presidency for nothing.... And when this happens there goes Trumps mandate.. There goes the will of the people again...Watch..Its coming...

P.S.

This is ALL Trumps fault....None of these people like Johnson, Lindsey Graham, McConnell would even be there any more if Trump didnt endorse these dirty rotten bastards....Trump did this..

The list of Trump endosed backstabbers is so long that I have lost count..

Pence, Christie, Romney, Ryan, McConnell, McCarthy, Barr, Sessions, 2 FBI directors that screwed him, numerous other congressional reps that screwed him.... Dozens of personal attorneys that screwed him including Michael Cohen..The list goes on and on..

This is exactly the reason why I dont Trust Trump anymore..

Somebody here stop me when I am wrong..

One more thing:

The word "Bipartisan is the most overused political term of all time.. Its a word that is used to confuse the people...

The real definition of that word is The Democrats will take some of our money, the Republicans will take some of our money and the people will get nothing....It was a "Bipartisan agreement"

Only dumb asses, the weak minded and idiots believe this media/politician created word...

I found this statement from Trump. Is this what you are referring to as a full endorsement?

“If the speaker acts decisively, and tough, and gets rid of all of the traps being set by the Democrats, which will economically and, in other ways, destroy our country, he will easily remain speaker.” -Trump

I'd like to see Johnson kicked out and not given a second chance. The statement is disappointing but it sounds more like a warning than a ringing endorsement.

Obviously, the shorter bill is better. I can't find through Google, exactly what was in Trump's Plan B. A friend told me that according to an X post that it stripped away anything objectionable and the only pork was the molasses study. But, who knows if that is accurate. I'd like to think so.

I wonder if that small pile of papers still has the provision (and its a spending bill) to give full immunity from prosecution of every member of the Jan 6th Committee... (ie: Liz Cheney and company)..

Word has it the original bill secretly conspired and pushed with Mike Johnson, Mitch McConnell at the helm had this written into the language..

Of course I didnt read it so I cant confirm this 100% but there has been talk about this..

This picture illustrates the difference between the proposed bills:


I'm thinking this would be a great idea:
Flamethrower Elon Musk floated for House speaker as government funding mayhem ramps up
FTA:

"Has it been released whats in the bill"

Please scroll back and refer to my previous comments....

Our money is in the bill.. Which has been looted by these 535 pirates who want to give themselves a $60,000 raise each....

Our money which will increase our national debt a few trillion more is in the bill....

We have a "debt ceiling" (thats like a cap on your credit card) that expires on Jan 1st..(next week).....The pirates (Pushed by Trump) want to extend the "debt ceiling" (similar to getting a credit increase on your credit card) so they can spend more of OUR MONEY on shit they want to buy...

Let me put this debt ceiling another way...The credit card that you have has a $10,000 limit (which you have maxed out) you continue to make ONLY the minimum payment each month of $60.. This basically cover the interest only but your $10,000 debt still remains...

Now you wanna go out and buy a swing set for your kids but you dont have the money... So you ask the bank to increase your card to $20,000....They grant you the increase and you continue to make only the minimum payment on $20,000 now....With no hopes of ever paying it off...(unless you live to 150 years old)

That is about as simple as I can explain this....

Trump is WRONGLY endorsing this because he doesnt wanna have to deal with it on Jan 20th...

So the whole idea by Trump/Musk of getting rid of wastefull spending was ALL bullshit...

In other words Trump lied to get elected... (ie: Trump has become a politician)

But dont take my word for it...

Btw,

The reason why most people (and especially Trump supporters) dont understand whats going on or whats in the bill is because they are used to being lied to... They have become accustomed to the lies..

And most will NOT accept the fact that Trump has become one of them..

And to think the Son of Gun is not even in office yet... And this shit is happening..