I can't see it because of the age restriction. Maybe it is a problem on my end. I'm working on a new computer and my settings are not what I'm used to.
I think you have to go to settings on YouTube and hit over 18...
You have to sign in to YouTube first...
But this is a very good film that basically tells the truth as far as I am concerned....
If you know anything about Roger Waters, he is detested by his ex Pink Floyd band members mostly because of this film.. Particularly Gilmour..
But there is nothing in this film that is false. And the title is very appropriate because Americans are led to believe everything they are told by these liars in the media...
Why is it that I get the feeling that your post expects me to be the toilet paper to wipe it clean?
The video is a propaganda piece that rails against propaganda. If you think it has a point worth discussing, point to the time spot in the video. If you can't so that, try using your own words.
"If you think it has a point worth discussing point to a time spot in the video"
I think the title alone is 100% accurate... And so is the content of the film....Especially the parts where it discusses "international law" ....I wonder where I have heard that before....
Btw,
Boy are you pissed....The truth always hurts I guess... It is amazing how some people can't see the truth of how things really are. They always end up following the politicians and phoney media machines that they have created. To them, the main street media is their God...
These are the same people who have created ALL the lies and they have capitalized politically and economically off of these LIES for decades.
I think the title [The Occupation of the American Mind] alone is 100% accurate...
So do I though I think I would blunt it a bit and say "pretty" accurate. I hate absolutes.
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
And so is the content of the film....Especially the parts where it discusses "international law".
That is where the time spot(s) or your own words would be helpful.
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Btw,
Boy are you pissed....The truth always hurts I guess...
As more and more truths have been revealed since Trump took office, I have good reason to be pissed.
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
It is amazing how some people can't see the truth of how things really are. They always end up following the politicians and phoney media machines that they have created. To them, the main street media is their God...
I'm pleased you are aware of this and I'm gratified that you are attempting to break free of their influence.
If you had watched the film (about an hour and a half long) you wouldn't need a "timespot" ....You would know exactly what I am talking about regarding international law.
My guess is that you watched about 15 minutes and then decided to call it propaganda... Which is ironic because one of the points of this film is on the topic of opposing viewpoints being called "propaganda"
If you had watched the film (about an hour and a half long) you wouldn't need a "timespot" ....You would know exactly what I am talking about regarding international law.
My guess is that you watched about 15 minutes and then decided to call it propaganda... Which is ironic because one of the points of this film is on the topic of opposing viewpoints being called "propaganda"
You are correct. The video is long and after a few minutes, I fast forwarded to several points only to see more propaganda. I'm not going to spend over an hour watching a video and guess on the parts you think are important. How am I to know "exactly what [you're] talking about" if you haven't talked about it. As you say, it is ironic that a blatant propaganda piece that you think is worthwhile makes a major point of calling opposing viewpoints propaganda.
The entire film is important. So I am not going to help lazy people.
But you just keep believing what you believe.
And I knew you didn't watch it... If I were a Professor and I gave this video to my class, I would expect a good intelligent review/discussion for the next class...
Let's be honest....You are the type of guy who judges a book by it's cover.
The entire film is important. So I am not going to help lazy people.
Likewise. If you thought the video had merit, you would have introduced it with commentary of your own and use portion(s) of the video to substantiate or elaborate your point. Your motive was to "start shit" and you left a load of it for us to wallow in for an hour and a half.
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
But you just keep believing what you believe.
That goes without saying. Everyone believes what they believe -- one of the few absolutes I can live with.
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
And I knew you didn't watch it... If I were a Professor and I gave this video to my class, I would expect a good intelligent review/discussion for the next class...
There's the story of a student who tacked a couple of pages of his report together. When he received a poor grade, he took issue with the professor by pointing out he graded it without reading it because the pages were still tacked together. The professor's reply is the same as mine: you don't have to eat the whole apple to know it's rotten.
[quote=Fahrenheit451Let's be honest....You are the type of guy who judges a book by it's cover. [/quote]In this case, the cover is a sticky brown.
Let it go. You posted this garbage just to get a reaction. You got it. Be happy.
And I dont have to introduce "commentary of my own" before people watch it and decide for themselves....Then there is something called a discussion afterwards..
If you were in my class I would not only give you an F. I would also have you escorted out of the building...
If you were in my class I would not only give you an F. I would also have you escorted out of the building...
That's one of the problems with our current educational system. If someone disagrees, they are censored by grades and/or expulsion. The lazy professors don't have to teach, they just stir shit.
If you were in my class I would not only give you an F. I would also have you escorted out of the building...
That's one of the problems with our current educational system. If someone disagrees, they are censored by grades and/or expulsion. The lazy professors don't have to teach, they just stir shit.
Lol. You are 100% wrong.... In fact most of the professors want and encourage independent thought....In fact I have NEVER met one that didn't....
However in order to converse in an academic setting the reading or media materials given are required.....If you don't do the required homework/assignments you will be picked off immediately....
If you decide NOT to do the required reading/viewing and use the excuse that it's "propaganda" then you will fail....
The key objective is to do the assignments then you can criticize afterwards.. Or you may concur with the material as well....
That's why I would give you an F if you were in my class....
You are set in your ways I guess...
Btw,
For the record, probably 90% of my professors were liberals but I still did the required assignments. When it was time to argue my viewpoints I was usually well prepared..... But I never once said I am not reading or watching that Communist propaganda.....
Israel wipes out another 326 women and children overnight..
But Israel claims they are "going after Hamas leaders"....Total lie..They are going after everybody and everything....That is called mass genocide on Israel's part..
Ceasefire over as Israel strikes Gaza after Hamas refused to release hostages, officials say
You fault me for deciding a long propaganda video wasn't worth the time. Yet you can't be bothered to point out any specific segment that you feel is important You don't care that your opinion has been molded by such dreck fed to you by professors for years. You're more concerned about a grade than you are about truth.
Your bias is so strong you can't even post about Israel without a lie:
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Israel wipes out another 326 women and children overnight..
A lie. From the link you provided:
Quote
At least 404 Palestinians, including women and children, have been killed in the airstrikes so far, according to the Hamas-run Gaza health ministry. The death toll has not been independently verified.
The lie isn't the discrepancy in numbers, but your mischaracterization that indicated all the deaths were women and children. Your use of the word "murder" is also misleading. How can anyone take your opinion seriously on this subject when you make such a post?
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
But Israel claims they are "going after Hamas leaders"....Total lie..
What basis so you have for that contention?
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
They are going after everybody and everything....That is called mass genocide on Israel's part..
You don't know the meaning of "genocide."
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
This is exactly why the hate will never end between these two sides....That hate has been carried over to the streets and Universities of America....
The antisemitism was spawned in the US universities professors and administrators.
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
This has been going on since the creation of Israel in 1947-1948..
Antisemitism goes back further. In WWII, Arabs were actively helping the Nazis implement the Final Solution.
So tragic. It is unthinkable to target innocent civilians, especially children. Horrible.
So you believe Fahrenheit451's headline? No wonder hate is so rampant.
Never forget, it was Hamas that targeted innocent civilians, especially children. Every day they starve, torture, and/or kill hostages whose only crime is being Jewish. Then they hide in and under schools, hospitals, etc. hoping hostages and civilian shields will give them time to regroup and do it again.
So tragic. It is unthinkable to target innocent civilians, especially children. Horrible.
So you believe Fahrenheit451's headline? No wonder hate is so rampant.
Never forget, it was Hamas that targeted innocent civilians, especially children. Every day they starve, torture, and/or kill hostages whose only crime is being Jewish. Then they hide in and under schools, hospitals, etc. hoping hostages and civilian shields will give them time to regroup and do it again.
You sound like Sean Hannity....
Never forget that the Palestinians were burned out of their homes and land when this all really started....
Never forget the tens of thousands of women and children who were slaughtered by the IDF over the decades.....
The ONLY people who are living life in an enclosed outdoor prison are the people living in the Gaza Strip..
Netanyahu is most definitely a war criminal for real....Too bad that you are just too intellectually lazy to watch that film.... There is old video of Netanyahu insisting on the destruction of the Palestinians...
Btw,
If Israel is a "Democracy" then why has Netanyahu been a Prime Minister for over 17 years.... First elected in 1996...?
Sounds more like a dictatorship to me..
He keeps getting elected even though 60% of the population hates his guts.. Go figure....
Soon Netanyahu will give Biden a run for his money..
Never forget that the Palestinians were burned out of their homes and land when this all really started....
As I mentioned in my last post to you (which you ignored), hatred of Jews was around well before WWII. Remember, the Arabs joined in the Nazi's effort to eradicate the Jews which, by the way, fits the definition of "genocide," not the casualties of a military operation targeting terrorists. You also ignore the fact that hundreds of thousands of Jews have been purged from many Arab countries.
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Netanyahu is most definitely a war criminal for real....
There are many such claims. How many of them are fabrications or distortions? This link addresses some of them: Myths & Facts: Online Exclusives. (Search for "Israeli leaders have committed war crimes in Gaza.")
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Too bad that you are just too intellectually lazy to watch that film...
Never forget that the Palestinians were burned out of their homes and land when this all really started....
As I mentioned in my last post to you (which you ignored), hatred of Jews was around well before WWII. Remember, the Arabs joined in the Nazi's effort to eradicate the Jews which, by the way, fits the definition of "genocide," not the casualties of a military operation targeting terrorists. You also ignore the fact that hundreds of thousands of Jews have been purged from many Arab countries.
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Netanyahu is most definitely a war criminal for real....
There are many such claims. How many of them are fabrications or distortions? This link addresses some of them: Myths & Facts: Online Exclusives. (Search for "Israeli leaders have committed war crimes in Gaza.")
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Too bad that you are just too intellectually lazy to watch that film...
The issues aren't about me.
And now the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestinians/Arabs in the Gaza Strip what the Germans did to the Jews in WW2.. With the 100% backing from Trump....
Trump wants that land because it is prime beachfront property. He has said so himself a million times.....He and Israel need those people removed by any means necessary....So wake up..
Always the dollars...
Btw,
I would compare the Gaza Strip to the Ghettos that the Germans placed the Jews in. These Ghettos were where the Jews were forced to live right before Hitler exterminated them.....Same situation in Gaza...
And now the Jews in Israel are doing to the Palestinians/Arabs in the Gaza Strip what the Germans did to the Jews in WW2.. With the 100% backing from Trump....
It' hard to believe anyone with your education would make such a claim. The brain washing in our educational system is more effective than I thought.
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Trump wants that land because it is prime beachfront property. He has said so himself a million times.....He and Israel need those people removed by any means necessary....So wake up..
Do you bother to think before you post? The problem existed well before Trump was President.
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
I would compare the Gaza Strip to the Ghettos that the Germans placed the Jews in. These Ghettos were where the Jews were forced to live right before Hitler exterminated them.....Same situation in Gaza...
Try educating yourself before posting such thoughtless antisemitic falsehoods. Myths & Facts: Online Exclusives (2021 - 2023) Search for: Israel is engaged in an illegal siege of Gaza.
During the period of the British Mandate of Palestine (1920-1948), some Jews attempted to immigrate to PALASTINE (Ie: where Palestinians/Arabs lived and called home) ILLEGALLY, known as "Aliyah Bet" or "Ha'apala," to circumvent British restrictions on Jewish immigration.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
British Restrictions:
The British government, which controlled Palestine at the time, imposed strict quotas and restrictions on Jewish immigration. Aliyah Bet/Ha'apala:
To overcome these restrictions, Zionist organizations organized the clandestine immigration of Jews, often referred to as "Aliyah Bet" or "Ha'apala".
Motivations: Many Jews, including Holocaust survivors and those fleeing persecution in Europe, sought to immigrate to Palestine, seeing it as a future homeland. (Ie: They didn't give a shit if someone else was already living in PALASTINE)
Methods: Jewish immigrants often arrived in Palestine on ships, some of which were intercepted by the British authorities and their passengers interned in camps, like those on Cyprus.
Examples: The ship "Henrietta Szold" carrying Jewish immigrants from Greece to Palestine arrived in Haifa in 1946. Between 1945 and 1948, 65 "illegal" immigrant ships carrying 69,878 people arrived from European shores.
Context: The illegal immigration of Jews to Palestine was a complex issue with deep historical roots, influenced by the rise of Zionism, the persecution of Jews in Europe, and the British Mandate's policies.
Note: What the Jewish refugees did was ILLEGAL when they first attempted to enter PALESTINE. It was also ILLEGAL and Morally wrong when they were granted permission by American and British politicians later...
They were later sent back to Europe and had to wait until the U.N. voted 33-13 in favor of Israel becoming a state....The Palestinians/Arabs who were living on this land were KICKED off this land...(in many cases burned off the land) The 13 who voted against Israel taking this land were practically all Middle East countries..(for obvious reasons)
On May 14th 1948 Israel declared itself a State by their leader David Ben Gurion....On the exact same day Israel was attacked by 5 Middle Eastern countries who wanted their land back....(again for obvious reasons)
So educate yourself dipshit...You are completely ignorant of the truth.
The bottom line.
The people who decided they can kick another group of people off their lands had help from America and Britain...(ie: No doubt why America is hated by practically ALL Middle Eastern countries)
In the end one group of people conquered the territory from another group of people... That is the reason for all this hate over the past 75-80 years...
Don't argue with me because I am 100% correct.
Btw,
If you your next comment is about how the Jews had this land 2000 years ago, (during biblical times) just forget that notion...
First off none of these European Jews were descendants of the "Biblical Jews" (which you don't believe in that sort of thing anyways)....All of these invaders (ie: Jewish Refugees) were of European decent. All were Russian, German, Polish, French etc.....
Furthermore, let's say that the Jews were the occupiers of this piece of land 2000-4000 years ago (which I have no doubts) the fact remains that an entire group of Arabs who were living here for decades (under British rule) were pushed off of the land to make room for a group of European Refugees....Because who gives a shit about these Arabs anyways right?
America's master plan was to use these "Jewish Refugees" so that America could get a strong foothold in the Middle East...(ie: Manifest Destiny)
So in a sense the American Politicians back then were as evil and corrupt as they are today.....
My comment wasn't so much political but more the tragedy of of war. When you think about it, humans have been finding a reason to kill each other for as long as any of us can remember. It is totally sad.
During the period of the British Mandate of Palestine (1920-1948), some Jews attempted to immigrate to PALASTINE (Ie: where Palestinians/Arabs lived and called home) ILLEGALLY, known as "Aliyah Bet" or "Ha'apala," to circumvent British restrictions on Jewish immigration.
You offer the fact that decades ago, Jews, desperate for a haven, broke flawed British law as an excuse to equate today's Jews with Nazi's attempt at the Final Solution?
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
The British government, which controlled Palestine at the time, imposed strict quotas and restrictions on Jewish immigration. Aliyah Bet/Ha'apala:
To overcome these restrictions, Zionist organizations organized the clandestine immigration of Jews, often referred to as "Aliyah Bet" or "Ha'apala".
...throughout the Mandatory period, Arab immigration was unrestricted. In 1930, the Hope Simpson Commission, sent from London to investigate the 1929 Arab riots, said the British practice of ignoring the uncontrolled illegal Arab immigration from Egypt, Transjordan and Syria had the effect of displacing the prospective Jewish immigrants.
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
So educate yourself dipshit...
Do yourself a favor and explore the website I linked to. It might give your perspective some balance. Then you might be able to actually respond to to points made instead of ignoring them or hope insults will deflect attention from the flaws in your points. As many who read my posts know, when name calling and/or course language enters a post, I usually ignore the rest of the post and that is the case here. If you believe the rest of your post is worthy of a response, restate it in another post in a civil manner and I will address it.
My comment wasn't so much political but more the tragedy of of war. When you think about it, humans have been finding a reason to kill each other for as long as any of us can remember. It is totally sad.
Don't waste your time responding to that ignorant man with zero formal education. (Ie: Chuck) He knows nothing about the situation there.. Chuck is a relic from yester year....His way of thinking went out of style with high button shoes..
He will use every excuse and American Media talking point to defend Israel.. That is the way he was raised and that is the information that has been fed to him over the past 70 years...
He will never admit that thousands of kids have been slaughtered by the IDF and Netanyahus war machine...He will just chalk it up a "casualties of war"......Or he will just blame Hamas for using these people as shields.... Nothing is ever Israel's fault....He was falsely taught to believe Israel has always been the good guy...Just like he was falsely taught that America has always been the good guy too...
You have seen how our politicians and government have behaved over the decades.. Do you think we are really the good guys? After all the wars and slaughter that America Politicians have created over the years...
Our leaders are responsible for over 500,000 Iraqi civilian deaths.. Our leaders are responsible for an Afghanistan War that lasted over 20 years killing hundreds of thousands of innocents...Our leaders are also responsible for the entire existence of Israel....We created the modern state of Israel.. Our tax dollars (billions every year) fund Israel's entire military. Are we the good guys?
Or how about Vietnam? Our politicians slaughtered MILLIONS of innocent Vietnamese woman and children not to mention got 50,000 of our young soldiers killed...And America is the good guy? What was the end result of Vietnam? We lost and Communism took over...
What was the end result of Afghanistan (after 20 years) we lost and the Taliban took over again....
Just look at the war we have 100% funded in Ukraine as we speak....Hundreds of thousands have died with bullets paid for by the American taxpayers....We are the "good guys" ?
What do you think will be the end result in Ukraine? I will tell you what it will be. Ukraine will lose and Russia will get what they came for. (Their original land)....And just like Israel, Ukraine/Zelenski have been force fed to us 24/7 that they are the "good guys"....
All those Ukrainian Politicians will be on the run soon with all the money we gave them. Mark my words....Trump should have arrested that Criminal Zelenski when we had him here on our soil...
We are NOT the good guys and neither is Israel.. Just think about how much of our national debt has gone to Israel over the past 78 years...
We have probably spent trillions of dollars over the decades suppossedly so Israel can "DEFEND ITSELF" but what has been the end result of this? There has been more murder and mayhem in that part of the world than ever before....It's been 78 years of non stop carnage...
The BIGGEST lie is that Our politicians gave our money so they can "defend themselves".....The truth is our Politicians believe in Manifest Destiny.
Chuck also knows zero about the law or to be specific International Law... And he is a pathetic debater.. He knows nothing about the geography over there.
Those people (2 million) are literally sitting ducks trapped on all sides by Egypt (who doesn't want them) Israel on the other side who is bombing them and an Ocean (which they can't go further than 1 mile or they will be shot)
And then unfortunately you have Trump making comments that he wants the whole place bulldozed to make room for a beachfront resort area....Then he could build another Trump Hotel and Trump International Golf course....Nice..
Anybody who claims Israel is wrong is tagged/labled as Antisemitic.
Hamas is not even a region. They are a terrorist organization. They set up their HQ in schools and hospitals. They are as bad as the mass killers who shield themselves with a child. It is exactly what they are doing. Israel has a right to defend themself. The terrorist should not have put them in the situation.
My comment wasn't so much political but more the tragedy of of war. When you think about it, humans have been finding a reason to kill each other for as long as any of us can remember. It is totally sad.
All of this is true. The point of my post was to call attention to the fact that the hate filled lie that Fahrenheit451 posted was so readily accepted and repeated. Israel did NOT target women and children as your post indicated. This kind of illogic gets repeated and spreads incrementally if not exponentially and only fuels emotions that lead to further war.
It doesn't take a post graduate degree to know there is no motive for Israel to target women and children.
Chuck also knows zero about the law or to be specific International Law... And he is a pathetic debater.. He knows nothing about the geography over there.
I may be a terrible debater but my lack of skill at presenting facts and logic doesn't alter the fact that they are valid. You chide me for only watching part of a propaganda video yet you refuse to support your contentions. You don't/can't answer questions put forth. You don't/can't counter points put forth. You ignore posts that support my contentions. You give no indication that you looked at the linked articles which don't demand you spend an hour and a half to do so as your video does. You worry more about me than you do about the topic at hand. Your rant that revolves around me indicates you are frustrated that I present challenges to your contentions that you cannot counter.
Your ignorance gets under my skin.....You are a troglodyte. (Ie: old fashion, a caveman)
You don't have the prerequisites to discuss anything of significance with me. My 13 year old has a better understanding of World Affairs and Politics than you do ...Of course we keep her away from the FAKE Media and Sean Hannittys of the world
Your ignorance gets under my skin.....You are a troglodyte. (Ie: old fashion, a caveman)
So far all you've got is the desire to "start shit" followed by a post that is an outright antisemitic lie. Your support for your statements winds down to throwing names and insults.
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
You don't have the prerequisites to discuss anything of significance with me.
You mean I haven't been in the educational system long enough for brainwashing to have an effect. Because I don't agree with you, you seek excuses to avoid common sense.
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
My 13 year old has a better understanding of World Affairs and Politics than you do ...Of course we keep her away from the FAKE Media and Sean Hannittys of the world
Since you are her major source of education, it is no surprise that she agrees with your position(s). It's not to your credit that you now use her as a shield to deflect criticism of your points.
As for bad mouthing me to others, it is inappropriate and rude. Other posters here can judge me by my posts and they don't need your commentary to form an opinion. So, if you wish to discuss something else besides me, like actually addressing points that are presented, fine. I'm good with that. However, I feel that we have done enough attacking respective personalities.
Yep I knew you would resort to that....Probably because you hate Muslim people. That would be my guess.... If their women or children get slaughtered by Netanyahus War Machine then so be it....
Just chalk it up to a few war casualties... At least the "good guys" are winning right? Or blame it on Hamas....As if those people have a choice.
Yep I knew you would resort to that....Probably because you hate Muslim people.
Not "resort to" but "return to." It's your lie and you never acknowledged it nor rectified it.
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
At least the "good guys" are winning right? Or blame it on Hamas....As if those people have a choice.
If the "good guys" lose there will be millions of Jews slaughtered and enslaved. Hamas was elected. They made their choice. If Hamas remained in power against the will of the citizens, then consider the current effort a liberation.
Instead we already have tens of thousands of kids and newborns living in Gaza already slaughtered.. I have seen the videos....
Here are some dead newborn babies and children for you from yesterday. Of course it's not from the FOX Network that you are accustomed too....
If you think this is OK and just the pitfalls of war then you are sicker than I thought....
Liar...
Don't worry because soon Trump will have that place bulldozed and turned into prime beachfront resorts.....Trump will do anything for a buck...
And as far as answering questions go, you have not answered one single question I asked on this board.. Because you don't have an answer....
Just like the ignorant troglodyte you are....
You would NEVER survive Law School because you CANNOT think for yourself and form your own opinions and conclusions without resorting to smear tactics....
Btw,
I don't think that newborns and young children had a vote in electing Hamas.....
Instead [of millions of Jews slaughtered and enslaved] we already have tens of thousands of kids and newborns living in Gaza already slaughtered..
Even if we assume your numbers, you are comparing thousands against millions.
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Liar...
A word thrown out with no reference. Perhaps you have found a moment of introspection.
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
And as far as answering questions go, you have not answered one single question I asked on this board..
I generally respond to your posts on a item by item basis and include a relevant quote from your post that relates to that item. I do pass over some of your off-topic rants and rhetorical questions. If you would, show me a question of yours that you felt I didn't address properly and I will address it.
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Just like the ignorant troglodyte you are....
You would NEVER survive Law School because you CANNOT think for yourself and form your own opinions and conclusions without resorting to smear tactics....
Again you focus on me -- with "smear tactics" no less. If I'm such a loser, why are you squirming so hard to avoid contesting my points.?
As I get older and a little bit wiser.. I am starting to understand why you and Maxwebber (who was definitely a College Professor) regardless of any of his other alleged discretions had such contempt for you.. And you him...
It is not because you think that you are clever and deceptive with your style of responses (usually asking a question rather discussing the topic at hand) I can spot and pick off that amateur tactic immediately.
Not because of your absolute hatred of the academic field.
But he despised you because you refused to share your absolute beliefs regarding whatever topic of discussion that he proposed discussing was.
Immediately you have Always just looked at the book cover and decided to pre judge what the posters intentions were...
Sometimes the poster might agree with you 100% but sometimes that poster will not agree with you .. .
But in your case, nobody will ever know because you are just one of those people who have been pre conditioned by the system...
It's almost as if you are trying to deflect the original threads...
You support a country that has committed mass genocide.
Untrue. I do not support the Arab states' efforts to eliminate Jews. I do support Israel, a country that has been a victimized by those who want Jews wiped out or enslaved since before WWII.
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
Netanyahu is now wanted and subject to immediate arrest in 125 ICC Countries for War Crimes against humanity.. This includes France and the UK..
Five prominent British lawyers said the warrant requests were “wrong in principle and not credible, for at least five reasons. First, because after October 7, Israel was entitled to seek to remove the ability of Hamas to murder, rape, and abduct more Israeli citizens (as it has promised to do). Second, because Hamas hides behind the civilian population in Gaza, it is sadly inevitable that any attempt by Israel to defend its people will lead to civilian deaths, for which Hamas is responsible. Third, Israel continues to provide humanitarian aid to Gaza, much of it stolen and used by Hamas. Fourth, the application for arrest warrants against Hamas leaders could and should have occurred months ago, and its occurrence now suggests, absurdly, some form of moral equivalence. And fifth, the ICC prosecutor usually declines to act where there is an independent and effective legal system in the state concerned able to address any legal charges. No one could seriously doubt that is so in Israel, which has one of the most independent judiciaries in the world and which has, in the past, sent a prime minister to prison for wrongdoing” (Morning Brief, BICOM, May 22, 2024). Furthermore, the ICC lacks jurisdiction in this case, as Israel is not a state party to its conventions, and the Palestinian Authority, not being a sovereign country, may not be a party to it either.
Hamas needs to be taken out. Special ops and sharp shooters should fix the problem.
Right I agree but nobody is talking about Hamas.... We are discussing tens of thousands of women and children/new born babies being slaughtered. The kids did not vote for Hamas...
We are talking about an ILLEGAL blockage of air/land/sea that Israel has placed on this entire 25 mile strip of land (that runs up against the sea) since 2007... That in and of itself is considered and act of war....(ie: There is no place for these people to run or hide to get away from Israel's assault)
This is murder in my book... It is murder according to the Geneva Convention and to the International Court..
Netanyahu has been accused of starving these people to death. Long before those attacks on those 1100 people...
I don't know if people realize that Netanyahu cut off their fishing supply too with that blockade of the sea.....There is video of Netanyahu from 20 years ago discussing how he would like to wipe out the entire Gaza Strip.
This is WHY these University students are screaming their asses off.....It was the same exact thing during the Vietnam era.....American soldiers slaughtered millions of innocent women and children too...
Same in Iraq under Bush. We slaughtered over 500,000 civilians all because Bush lied about Saddam Hussein having "weapons of mass destruction" HE DIDN'T.
My arguments have nothing to do about race or religion. It is about common sense... My wife (who is an attorney too) grew up in Iran so she is very familiar with the entire situation in the middle east... And she is NOT a Muslim she is a Christian..
Btw,
There is NO defense for what Netanyahu has done over the past 20 years... Killing Hamas is one thing but eliminating an entire people to achieve this goal is genocide pure and simple....
For the record I am going to assume you are an American...Did you have any control over the Mass Genocide that George W. Bush committed when he eliminated 500,000 Iraqi civilians in order to get Saddam and his Ba'ath party? Did you get a vote on his military decisions?
Or did you have any control over the MILLIONS of civilians that LBJ/Nixon wiped out in Vietnam? (Not to mention the 50,000 young Americans who were forced to die)..
So why would anyone believe that these kids in Gaza have a voice...
Both of these instances were built on absolute lies by American leaders...
Vietnam- "Stop the spread of Communism"
Iraq - "Saddam has weapons of mass destruction"
Total lies created by our Murderous Politicians.
End results:
Vietnam became was completely overtaken by Communism
Iraq didn't have weapons of Mass destruction and later controlled by another political puppet after Saddam was hanged...
P.S.
My point
The George W. Bush, LBJ and Nixon administrations killed more innocent human beings than Hamas ever did by miles....
And don't even get me started on FDR and Wilson....
