Originally Posted by chuck
I agree with most of what you say about Zelenski.
I just feel that Trump and Vance could have handled themselves more professionally particularly on the world stage.
I think the image of coherent and meaningful US leadership took a blow in that exchange.
As you now, I think highly of Trump and Vance. This exchange doesn't change that, but it was disappointing.

As to Zelenski, this article attempts to explain why he torpedoed the talks.
Obama’s Co-Conspirators Including Victoria Nuland, Susan Rice, Alexander Vindman Told Zelensky to Reject Trump Deal in Violation of Logan Act.

Interesting article.....

So is this one....

A couple hours before Zelenski met with Trump/Vance this meeting took place directly across the street at a hotel....


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/bipartisan-group-rinos-democrat-senators-met-zelensky-blew/


Also I was just listening to a member of Trumps staff who was there with Trump and Zelenski an hour before this TELEVISION meeting....Zelenski was apparently going off big time about Putin....Calling him every name in the book.....And he was asking for Trump to back him up on this....

Plus..Zelenski repeatedly requested "guaranteed security" before he signs that mineral deal....In other words he wants American troops on the border...(Just like we have on Germany)


This ticked Trump off.....Plus not wearing a suit and showing up to a meeting looking the way he did pissed him off...

Btw,

Re: Troops

I just read on FOX News that Trump may withdraw those 20,000 troops we have had in Germany since 1945.....I think he should just do it...Let Europe fend for itself once and for all....


European leaders on edge as prospect looms of Trump pulling 20K troops from continent

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/eu...-trump-pulling-20k-troops-from-continent


Also it was Zelenski who requested this meeting in the first place not Trump....

I also keep asking everyone one question...

What does any of this have to do with us...?

This is Europes problem not ours.... We have (Biden actually) given this creep Zelenski 350 billion in aid for what?

Last edited by Fahrenheit451; 03/03/2025 01:10 AM.