Domspeak Forums Discussions Off Topic & Politics Trump Verdict Fallout

Okay, I will be one to break the silence here. As a previous progressive liberal voter, I'm sick to my stomach. I don't know my own party any more. It is a wonder that only one selected juror asked to be released because they fear being ostracized. My fetish friends, which is a huge part of my life, has been ripped to shreds the past four years. This was the icing on the cake for whoever is behind it. I'm over it. Done. Went from a shoe in for Biden to not voting to not knowing what to do. In a selfish way, I'm pissed off that my friend groups are being ripped apart. I started following the trial late in the game. It is a disappointment Trump couldn't have been taken down for the repulsive things he actually did. They couldn't get him on separating families at the border? The debt he blew up and late response to Covid weren't enough? The Democrats blew taking Trump down. They blew the loyalty with enough of their base that it could matter. If I do vote it will be a throw away like Kennedy or Stein. It will be to vote against, not for. Has this had an impact on anyone here's personal life?

The division today is problematic. Every demographic has been shaken up and some even scattered across different states. You've said you could never vote for a Republican. That is a personal decision that only you can make. To echo Chuck, weigh out what you get by voting for Trump verses another four years like the last. Stein is a throw away vote. Kennedy probably is and he is pulling from Trump, which helps keep a continuation of the last four in office. What will you life look like four years from now if we continue down the path we are on?

I won't get into how you see Trump's performance as President. That would be better left on a thread to it's own. But, the fall out from even weaponizing the legal system will be even worse than all of the division the current crop of Democrats is causing. They are causing division in fetish circles? I'm sorry you are going through this. I've lost a few friends over politics too and, simply because of the way I vote. It isn't as if I was trying to push anything on them. It makes no sense to me. It's just lousy, especially for you as it sounds as if your friends are a major part of your life. Feel free to vent here any time. Part of the reason I hang around political sections on forums like these is because there are very few friends I'll discuss politics with. So many people have moved into my Tennessee neighborhood from liberal cities, I won't even put out a Trump sign nearing election. We all get along in my small neighborhood and that is how I want to keep it. I hope you have a great weekend and do special things for yourself.

"If I do vote then it will be a throw away vote like Stein or Kennedy"....

Then you are a part of the problem too....

This also has nothing to do with "Republicans" or "Democrats" which I am neither.....I treat every single member of Congress like the scum they all are.....All 535 of them are filth...From AOC to Jim Jordan....They all lie/loot and pillage.....Many rape and murder too....

Afterwards they ALL write books to capitalize some more on their evil doings...

In Fact the only time I have ever been in a voting booth myself was when Trump was on the ballot...

You are so completely off base and ridiculous with your accusations about what Trump did with regards to "separating families at the border" (These mother fuckers don't belong here anyways)......"Debt he blew up"....and "Late Response to covid"....(exactly what was he supposed to do when CHINA with help from our murderous politicians released COVID-19 on purpose into our atmosphere) ? Then the same people have released a PHONEY vaccine that WILL KILL an equal amount of people eventually...Mark my words...

Why do you care about what your friends think? Are you gonna follow or lead? Are you in middle school or high school?

My advice to you is to wake the FUCK UP...Your government and all of it's agencies are trying to destroy you....They are evil to the core...As an Attorney I can assure you that the "Legal System" has been destroyed and turned against ALL the people by this injustice in a million different ways.....

I am not going to go back and forth with someone who hasn't really educated themselves on the facts....

Maybe if you had kids of your own you would feel different....But go ahead and waste your vote...


Btw,

When Trump does win in November I hope he comes riding into Washington on a horse named REVENGE.....I hope he shows no mercy now...So again wake up...

" And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat upon him was DEATH, and HELL followed with him".......

That sums up how I feel....

Enclosure:

They should not have been here but they were. The children were thrown into a bad situation by their own parents and years of mixed signals from the US. If Trump wanted to take a bold stance, to the point of detaining parents and putting their children in foster homes or shelters, he should have been prepared. Resources to responsibly care for the children could not keep up with the need. Some children were lost in the system and took time to locate and later unite with their families. It was total chaos. Then, Trump backed down. All of that for nothing? It didn't inspire confidence. The debt, oh yeah, he blamed the spending bill on the Democrats but he signed it. Our debt went up to the tune of 8 trillion, in part because of his tax cuts. The time for Trump to have stopped Covid was before it happened. It has been reported that he wanted to fire Fauci and was talked out of it. Fauci must have had his attention for some reason. He didn't know about the research? It is his job to know about those things. When it broke out, he downplayed it. He is on record saying he did this to avoid public hysteria. Well, we got the hysteria anyway and we deserve truth. Trump is the one that pushed the vaccinations through. Then he got one himself and publicized it. I don't know what to think of the vaccination. It sounds like a money grab. But, Trump is not innocent of his part in that.

It isn't that I care what my friends think of me. I care about the division the DEI is causing. I care about the great divide that Biden verses Trump brings. My core group of friends are a second family to me. Watching the negative impact the civil unrest is having, at the hands of the government, on people I care about is upsetting. I'm not one to sweat the small stuff. I am getting to a point of impasse. My girl and I have very good lives. But, our discussion on getting the hell out of dodge and starting over in a rural area are becoming more serious. It pisses me off that this country has gotten so screwed up. So, poor me. It could be worse. This makes me hate Biden and whoever is behind the push to divide.

I've never given birth but my niece and nephew are my own. My niece will be going into her senior year of high school. The adults in my family are wrestling with the path we've worked so hard to get her on. The unrest on college campuses is inexcusable. My niece is agreeable to reconsidering her college choice. That will work out. But, it shouldn't be like this.

You've got a point that I am part of the problem or part of the solution in terms of voting. I'm in a state of coming to terms with how bad things have gotten. I should stop oozing negativity all over this forum until I can shake this dark cloud.

Take a step back from how this has impacted your social life and get a handle on what it has done to our country. When you say "Take down," what do you mean by that? Vote him out or set him up on phony charges and put him in jail without secret service? They are trying to do that, you know. They want Trump dead and out of their way. If what is going on is not stopped, imagine where this country will be 20 years from now. It will be a game of set up your opponent and kill him if he doesn't go away. If you think splitting up your circle of friends is bad, imagine if this spills over in to the general population.

Let's get our facts straight about COVID....

Covid was and will always be regardless of what the corrupt media and those corrupt politicians tell you.....A purposeful BIOLOGICAL ATTACK on the American people by our number 1 enemy China....In other words it was an act of war....

And the evil murderous/traitorous people like Fauci not only condoned it but helped fund and coordinate this attack.....As if Trump could have "stopped Covid".....Who is he Superman?

Covid was a planned biological attack on America. Who was behind it and why was it allowed to happen? Fauci was allowed to run amok under multiple administrations, including Trump's. Trump should have fired him instead of talking about it. He was the one with the power to do it when he took over. He praised the vaccinations and was the one to push them through emergency approval. He invited Bob Woodward into the White House and told him he downplayed the virus. It was wrong to down play it. It was bizarre that he'd tell this to a liberal author. I am not placing the blame solely at Trump's feet. He should have had the courage to act faster, as he knew was the right thing. Instead, he listened to the wrong people who were probably more concerned with PR. Trump talks like he is Super Man. If he would live up to 1/2 of his big talk, the country would be in better shape. Doing something halfway is worse than not doing it at all.

Yeah, I hear you. I'm still in shock over what is unfolding. It is like something from a science fiction movie. On a selfish level, I'm butt hurt over how it is impacting my life that was otherwise perfect.