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Do they actually think De Niro's hysterical rant outside of the courthouse helped their cause? By holding a press conference, that they were not present for, and delivering (By proxy) a message of the dangers of Trump just as the jury has gone in to deliberate, they've made something perfectly clear. They lied when they said the cases against Trump were not politically motivated and they were neutral. Putting an 80 year old De Niro out there to rant like a mad man is elder abuse.
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It's also called Jury Tampering.......Especially since this jury wasn't sequestered....
"Putting an 80 year old out there to rant like a mad man is elder abuse"....
How about when Obama, Jill and all their staffers put this 82 year old Corpse named Joe out there?....
For the record Robert De Niro dropped out of school at the age of 16 (right after 9th grade).....Just saying...He was NEVER very book smart to begin with...And you can tell by how he talks....Not much of a vocabulary...
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Jury tampering and election interference in action for all to see. Throw political persecution in there too. I personally think De Niro has dementia, just like his buddy Biden.
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Excellent points with elderly abuse and jury tampering. I do believe there are intelligent, self educated men that didn't finish high school. Either De Niro just isn't one of them or something in his brain has snapped. He's been sounding out of touch and unhinged for years.
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Re: The Jury
Do you think those 2 NYC Lawyers on this Jury will have jobs with their firms if they vote not guilty?.......And the other jurors are going to parlay their guilty votes into big paydays writing books, interviews and becoming instant media celebrities...
Even an appeal in the Crooked/Biased/Liberal/Communist state of NY is no guarantee....
And of course the defendant (Trump) and the entire world has NOT been told what crime was committed.....(In every other place in America this is done at the indictment and arrest and BEFORE the trial starts)....
De Niro is not educated in any way....Classroom or self educated. His entire life he has made a fortune by PRETENDING to be somebody that he isn't....
Every actor on the planet gets paid to be someone they are not...
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Do you know where I can find the exact directions the judge gave to the jury? I've read that he told them if they think he committed a second crime that was good enough and they didn't have to agree on which one it was. I've looked around and can't find his exact words anywhere on line. The whole case was nothing but a scam. Yep, you are right, dirt bags associated with the case are looking at this as self enrichment.
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Speaking of those two lawyers, I found this tweet interesting. I'm referring to the text about the two lawyers being planted, not the video of Trump speaking. https://x.com/wendyp4545/status/1796636368329711698
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Can you paste what it says? I don't have a twitter/x account so it won't let me open it without creating an account.
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I don't think the judges directions have been posted anywhere.....So I don't think anyone knows exactly what they said.....The jury didn't even get a written copy from what I heard..(Never saw that in my life)
Here is the worst part....The appeals court in NY consists of practically all Democrats appointed by Cuomo and Hochul.....All Trump haters.....
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No one has identified the alleged second crime. There are house Democrats that are still pushing for removal of secret service protection ahead of potential jail time. This couldn't be any shadier than if they did a public lynching. As an attorney, have you ever seen the prosecutor have the last word in closing statements?
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Here is the caption:
"When you watch this, keep in mind that one of the two attorney's on the jury was in fact a Corporate Attorney who is educated on ledgers and registries and he knew that Trump never filled out the ledger and that the bill was for legal fees that was entered in the ledger correctly.
That leads me to believe that the attorney's were planted on that jury there to convince the rest of the jury that Trump committed a crime that they knew he didn't commit."
It was in response to Trump's address of the verdict. He said the danger of what is going on far exceeds him and his presidency and that, essentially, it opens the door to witch hunt and prosecute anyone. (Paraphrasing) He also says that if you dig into anyone's books you will be able to find something to misconstrue, again I'm paraphrasing.
My take on it is that this was an accounting error, made by Cohn and unknown by Trump. Anyone who followed the trial can see that the only crime revealed was Cohn admitting he stole 30k from Trump.
Also, I don't have an X account but was able to get to it by copying and pasting the link in my browser.
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Re: Prosecutor having the last word
Yes the Prosecutor always has the last word HOWEVER,
NY is very unusual: In NY the defense attorneys start the closing arguments (you usually don't see this in most states) Then the Prosecutor gives closing statements.....
In CT, (and most states) The Prosecutor gives closing statements FIRST (Since it is their case to prove) the Defense goes second....Then the Prosecutor goes a second/final time for a rebuttal of what the defense said.....
Also I have read somewhere that this may be the first time in American History that a local state attorney prosecuted a federal crime......These people have thrown out the constitution and have disregarded all rules and procedures....(ie: We are officially witnessing a complete overthrow of our government and legal system)
Re: " No one has identified the second crime"
That is absolutely true....As a matter of fact any defendant anywhere in America is OBLIGATED to know what he has been charged with...No matter what.....There has NEVER been a case anywhere or at anytime ever in the history of our country that the defendant hasn't been informed of his/her alleged crimes....
Re: removing of secret service
They are definitely trying to have Trump murdered....He knows too much about too many people in power....They are also trying to kill us....Especially those of us who refuse to be enslaved by these evil politicians.....
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Cheyenne,
I will say this about those two NYC attorneys...
When I first heard that 2 attorneys were picked I knew right then and there it would be a guilty verdict...Before it even started....For many reasons....And Trumps lawyers have to have been nuts to agree to them (unless they ran out of jury challenges)
Usually an attorney, a cop or any other court personnel like judges, clerks etc are exempt from jury duty immediately.. I have jury duty myself coming up in two weeks....I have to physically show up and show that I am an attorney and I will be dismissed...
With an attorney (in this case 2 attorneys) on the jury you have big trouble because clearly the two lawyers are going to take control over the other jurors...I would be shocked if they weren't running the whole show behind closed doors....
That's interesting about the plant theory.....
I will give you another example of the corruption of this judge.....
Do you know why the ONLY day off during the week was Wensday?....When Usually the day off would be on Fridays.....It's because they wouldn't have to pick any Hasidic Orthodox Jews (who cant be out after dark on Fridays)
NY has plenty of these people and they are about 100% conservative and most definitely all Trump supporters...
Re: The only crime was Cohn stealing the money...
Then there was the crime of Stormy Daniels extorting and blackmailing someone...Not to mention her refusal to pay Trump the $500,000 judgement she lost to him...
Then there is the Crime of Alvin Bragg prosecuting a federal crime as a state attorney....The crime by Bragg on running for office of Attorney General with a get Trump slogan......He should have been DISBARRED for that alone....
A Prosecutors job is to target crime NOT target a person....
Then there is the crime of the judge for donating money to Biden......NY judges are absolutely FORBIDDEN to donate money to any politician under any circumstance...Whether it's 5 dollars or 5 million dollars....Automatically the judge would be disbarred if caught.....
And the list of other crimes is too numerous but these were off the top of my head..
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As I mentioned in a previous post...Attorneys who support Trump have been under attack and many have been disbarred from coast to coast because of their support for Trump....Attorneys have feared losing their jobs...I also heard (not sure how accurate the number is) that at least 400 attorneys across the country have been DISBARRED because of their belief that the 2020 election results were rigged/tampered with....They are no longer allowed to practice law.
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One more thing. Trump might have a hard time with his appeal in NY too since the next step is before 21 justices almost all Democrats appointed by Cuomo and Hochul.....Then the NY Supreme Court basically has 7 Trump haters too...All appointed by Cuomo and Hochul as well...
I also heard (not sure if it is true) that Braggs office leaked what his requested sentence will be (Totally ILLEGAL btw) to ABC News...He wants 1 year in Rikers Island for Trump.....Again not sure how accurate this tidbit of news is...
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How could I have left out Daniel's blackmail scheme? Following it from the beginning and knowing a bit about the adult industry people involved, it was a set up from the beginning. Daniels has contradicted herself so many times. Other times, she was bragging about scamming him.
The Wednesdays aren't a surprise. This was an orchestrated plan of gotcha. Pile up enough pettiness, Frankenstein it together with the right audience and the duct tape just might hold long enough.
The left keeps ranting about Trump's coming revenge. No. It is accountability and saving the justice system.
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Really? You should be able to access it without an account. That changed when it turned into X. If you didn't try it ans assume it won't work, try it. If it doesn't work, let me know and I'll paste it
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Ah fuck it, here it is.
"When you watch this, keep in mind that one of the two attorney's on the jury was in fact a Corporate Attorney who is educated on ledgers and registries and he knew that Trump never filled out the ledger and that the bill was for legal fees that was entered in the ledger correctly.
That leads me to believe that the attorney's were planted on that jury there to convince the rest of the jury that Trump committed a crime that they knew he didn't commit."
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I was able to get it on my cell phone....But I never did have a Twitter account (now x)....
But yes that Corporate Lawyer knows everything about this....He knows damn well that this was a legal expense too.....
Cheyenne brought up a very interesting point about these attorneys being plants......
I for one said to everyone around me that when it was announced that 2 attorneys were on the jury then Trump would be found guilty....
My gut told me that the 2 attorneys would take absolute control of that jury....The rest would follow like sheep......I just had a bad feeling....
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