Domspeak Forums Discussions Lobby Why Do Dommes Cause Permanent Damage?

The immediate, knee-jerk reaction from all posters on this site is going to be "he consented." Yes, I understand that he consented. Heroin addicts also consent to flooding their veins with highly addictive narcotics. That doesn't mean it's moral. We've all seen the clips of UK Mistress Elise. If a vanilla person were to stumble upon Her clips, they would automatically assume that she was sentenced to 20 years in prison. In reality, she retired, never spoke to one of her slaves ever again and lived out the rest of her life as a millionaire. Why do submissive men keep allowing this to happen?

Context please. What are you talking about?

I already told you the context. Dominant women cause permanent damage every second, every minute, every hour, every day. The real question is why they do this.

It would help if you would support that contention and if you specified what kind of damage you envision.

It sounds like you are feeling abandoned after a lady who you were emotionally invested in retired and ghosted everyone. I'm guessing because you are being a vague. Details would be helpful to understand and respond to your situation.

m sorry that you are feeling bad and, obviously, hurt. But, it is hard to address your post without more information. Can you explain more of what happened and has left you so distressed?

Hi Lady Cheyenne! I'm a big fan! Have you ever seen that clip of Mistress Elise repeatedly kicking that man in the balls until he starts vomiting blood? I just feel sorry for him is all.

Sorry if this comes across as being cynical but could this perhaps be a sort of subtle sort of click bait designed to get readers to search for this Mistress Elise's (whoever she might be) video clips?

Hmm... Unless proven otherwise, it looks like the site has attracted its first troll.

She's been retired for 12 years now and her clips are somewhat hard to find. I also have no interest in promoting her. I'm just asking why the BDSM community doesn't call bad dommes out. Look at the first responses to this thread. I said she deserves to be in prison for 20 years and everyone thought I was complimenting her! LOL.

Your first post was evasive. What are you saying makes her a "Bad dom?" Are you concluding this from first hand experience or is this an assumption based on what you've seen from a distance? If you could elaborate on the subject, it could turn into a good and productive conversation. As it is, I have to agree with every poster who has responded. No one can offer a thoughtful response without more information. The OT also sounds like something hoping to get a reaction. Just explain more and let's all take it from there.

You've got every right to be pissed off, like I do over Game of Thrones. They pulled it from the air with little notice. They took out my heroine. It was her boyfriend that killed her. He was supposed to be in love with her! I 'm still pissed. How dare my Sunday night entertainment go away! Come to think of it, a lot of messed up stuff happened in that series. All of those people should have gotten 20 to life. I should sue someone over my devastation. F 'em all. Why do we, with all of the combined viewing power, let them get by that that?

You don't think causing permanent physical damage to a sub makes you a bad Domme? UK Mistress Elise also has interview videos as well that are truly horrifying. You can just see that she has zero remorse for sending her subs to the hospital. When the subs talk in the interview videos, you can just feel their pain in how they speak, how they have regrets of how they let this woman permanently scar them. Like I said, a sub can rescind his consent, so it doesn't matter if he consented or not, this type of behavior should be illegal. He consented because of the high that he gets from submitting to a beautiful woman. He wasn't thinking straight. But I just used her as an example. If you want a true breakdown of what I've seen, it's 90 percent of dommes are afraid to go too far. Then, 5 percent are perfect; they push the boundaries of decency, but don't go too far. You can also tell they have a true passion for what they do. Then there's the other five percent. Those are the dommes that don't care about their subs and probably became dommes as a way of acting out on their hatred of men. This is how permanent physical damage is inflicted upon the subs. My question is why don't dommes call these other dommes out? I think it's because it's impossible to criticize a domme. If you call a domme psychotic or abusive, they'll find a way to turn that into a compliment. Just like all of you have done with this thread.

So, you have just joined here and this is your first post. Can you give us some background/context as to why you chose to start with this? What got you so wound up about this topic?
FWIW I've seen Pro Dommes 40+ years and it's never occurred to me that this was even a thing. Sure, some Dommes offer more intense sessions than others but regularly hospitalizing subs? .....seriously?

I can't speak to the UK or Europe but in North America I've honestly never come across this issue. Domina Nia might come close but I've never really been sure how much of that was reality and how much Urban Myth.

Do you have first hand experience with the mistress that you are so concerned about or are you basing this on videos you've watched? Posters have asked questions and requested you be more specific. It would be nice if you could respond to these posts with detailed information.

As for doms calling others out who they feel are unsafe, it happens. Some times, it turns out to be unmerited. Other times, it turns out to be credible. We've all seen subs with sour grapes go after a mistress and, sadly, mistresses go after subs in the same petty way. As much information as possible should be put out with clear concerns.

Your being so subjective makes it difficult to respond in a meaningful way.

I can relate to your feelings.

I'm not happy about a lot of things either, but essentially it boils down to "change".

Everything changes. My Buddhist friends have taught me that nothing is a constant, everything is changing and evolving. Everything with a beginning has a middle and an end.

Don't get mad at me. I didn't make change the norm. It was fucked up like this when I got here.

And don't be mad at Mistress whatever for retiring. That change was inevitable.