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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
...We have always wanted strategic control over the region....

This explains why billions of Arabs hate us...
No. It does not.
Their religion defines us a non-believers and sinners. That is the root of their hatred.

They are the ones that seek world domination.
They are angry because we are currently strong enough to slow or stop their quest of dominance.
They have succeeded in embedding their warriors/terrorists into Western civilization.
They will religiously try to divide and weaken us as their grip slowly but surely expands.

You talk about the evils of the US, but you still haven't provided a coherent answer to the question as to what you would have Israel do.
Your suggestion that they reject a source of revenue is not in their interest.
So far, it appears that you want Israel to surrender to Muslim rule.
You ignore the consequences.

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"Their religion defines us as non-believers and sinners. That is the root of their hatred"

You have no religion to begin with as you have stated a few times, but that is besides the point.....

Re: Religion

Jews do the same exact thing...They literally believe they are "God's chosen people" ....So where does that leave the rest of us?

In all fairness, Christianity does the same exact thing too...Their main philosophy is that if you don't accept Christ you are doomed...

Christianity and Judaism for the record are also in direct conflict with each other in my humble opinion....Jews DO NOT accept the teachings of Christianity and they reject Christ. (In fact they are personally responsible for his death)

"Muslims seek world domination"

And so does America....So does China.. So does Russia.. So did Germany...

So what's your point?

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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
"Muslims seek world domination"

And so does America....So does China.. So does Russia.. So did Germany...

So what's your point?
Muslims "convert" by force. The consequences of not accepting their religion is taxation, slavery, or death.
The other religions have evolved and are more flexible.
Look at treatment of Arabs in Israel compared to the plight of non-Muslims in the Arab states.
You overlook the many short comings of Islamic rule in order to defend your support for them.
You overlook the many accomplishments of Jews in order to defend your animosity toward them.

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Originally Posted by chuck
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
"Muslims seek world domination"

And so does America....So does China.. So does Russia.. So did Germany...

So what's your point?
Muslims "convert" by force. The consequences of not accepting their religion is taxation, slavery, or death.
The other religions have evolved and are more flexible.
Look at treatment of Arabs in Israel compared to the plight of non-Muslims in the Arab states.
You overlook the many short comings of Islamic rule in order to defend your support for them.
You overlook the many accomplishments of Jews in order to defend your animosity toward them.

America itself is a country BUILT on taxation, slavery and death...So are China and Russia.

America has taken over the government's of other countries for decades by force... Then they install their puppets... Iraq after Saddam comes to mind and so does Iran when we had our puppet the Shah in power...

I will give the Jews credit for one thing. They don't use force to install their rule. (Except in Gaza of course) They use their brains. Especially in this country a small group of them are able to infiltrate our government and bring our country to its knees....

I already listed the key politicians by name several times....They are all Jewish.

Here are their names again.

Adam Schiff
Nadler
Schumer
Blumenthal
Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Jamie Raskin
Dan Goldman
Both Vindman brothers
This judge Boasberg
Now this Editor from the Atlantic

Now you have this one today...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-force-commander-relieved-command-after/

Btw,

Don't forget people like Bernie Sanders (this Communist Pig) ripping this country in half for four decades. Influencing millions of youth with his vile views. Including AOC now....

Then you have media personalities like Mark Levin (a complete war monger) screaming for 3 hours a day and 2 hours on the weekend how we should blow up Iran...He makes millions with his books and capitalizing off our suffering.

There is Bill Maher (with millions of followers including yourself) ripping this country to pieces..

How about Howard Stern? Another anti American with a huge following destroying the moral fabric of our youth with his filthy disgusting mouth...

All of them are Jewish. All of them have played a part in America's destruction in my opinion....

P.S.

I am not even gonna get into those Hollywood types like Weinstein, or that Epstein guy. (The one that had the private Island where celebrities/politicians raped 12 year olds.) I could be here for a week listing the Hollywood people.

What a great contribution this small group of people have given our society.

Real Nice.

What do you have to say about this?

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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
What do you have to say about this?
It sounds like you hate Jews.

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Originally Posted by chuck
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
What do you have to say about this?
It sounds like you hate Jews.

It really sounds like you can't admit that I am right...Even if it means being sympathetic to these people....

These people (a small minority of a certain group have brought this country to its knees)....Are these the contributions to humanity that you were talking about?......




Adam Schiff
Nadler
Schumer
Blumenthal
Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Jamie Raskin
Dan Goldman
Both Vindman brothers
This judge Boasberg
Now this Editor from the Atlantic

Now you have this one today...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-force-commander-relieved-command-after/

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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
It really sounds like you can't admit that I am right...
It is more like I can't trust what you say or your logic.
In our early contact back at the Hang, I thought you were logical and forthright, but then we agreed on most of the issues and I had no reason to challenge your position.
However, now that I've challenged you on a few issues, I find you offer no basis to your positions and dodge the issue when challenged.
Every time I try to pin you down as to what you would have Israel do, you turn the conversation to the shortcomings of the US.
Regardless of the rationality for the US providing aid, Israel should not be condemned for accepting funds.

Every time you offer up a grievance about Israel and I respond with a counter argument or question, you ignore them and deflect.
Our discussion in another thread illustrates your inability to admit you are wrong even when it is just a simple math problem.
How can I trust what you say in your posts, particularly since you don't support or defend your posts?

As to Israel's influence on the US, that is not the issue.
Right now, my focus is on a conflict where one side intentionally inflicts misery out of hatred and the other inflicts misery out of necessity.
Frankly, I fear the one that intentionally inflicts misery out of hatred is more likely to drastically curtail our liberties, inflict misery, and destroy our standard of living than Israel and the Jews--Think 9/11 for starters.

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Go back to your silly question of the day posts which you flood the board with because you have no knowledge on this topic...

Except for your right wing media talking points...

Btw,

My Iranian wife would call you an old bigot..

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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit451
My Iranian wife would call you an old bigot..
She would be half right.

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