Domspeak Forums Discussions Off Topic & Politics DJT pledges to end/replace ACA AGAIN

I'm not referencing any particular publication/article, I'm just reiterating/summing-up what I've heard out of that foul mouth over the past week. He points out that Obamacare (the Affordable Care Act) is worthless and would already be dead if it wasn't for John McCain. He obsesses/focuses on the 'needless-great-costs' involved and the havoc it is reeking on our National Debt, never discussing that the great costs to today's insured have been moderately managed; he continually talks of HIS 'FAR-BETTER Healthcare plan' WITHOUT EVER giving even the slightest hint of what it is; it's just 'roll the dice' and vote for ME, AND great Healthcare, and his acolytes here, there and everywhere buy into it and cheer!.

McCain campaigned against Obamacare. He had good strategies on how to improve without taking a hammer to it. Then, the fucker turns around and votes for something that the people who supported him didn't want. Trump is right to call him out. Obamacare sucks ass.

It would be a great thing to do if the replacement is done well and thoughtfully. What Obama did is a debacle. This isn't about politics. It is about my family's health insurance being destroyed, along with the millions of other self employed and small business owners. Should Trump get back into office, it all comes down to it getting passed. We have a government that is more concerned with fighting with itself than accomplishing anything that affects the lives of the day Americans in any meaningful way.

[quote=Cheyenne]It would be a great thing to do if the replacement is done well and thoughtfully. What Obama did is a debacle. This isn't about politics. It is about my family's health insurance being destroyed, along with the millions of other self employed and small business owners. Should Trump get back into office, it all comes down to it getting passed. We have a government that is more concerned with fighting with itself than accomplishing anything that affects the lives of the day Americans in any meaningful way. [/quote]
Dear Cheyenne,
We've been down this road before, BUT I believe that for both ours and the benefit of EVERY diligent counterpart posting here: It's worth going down again; excuse me if I bore you with some rehash, but:
1. Why/how do people (acolytes?) continue to ACCEPT continued, speculated-about, undefined "better Trump-care" plans(s)" from a gross exaggerator (I leave it at exaggerator in deference to Holy Week}; man, who has yet to deliver anything of substance to his/our people given 4 Administration years?
2. How did I, as a tourist get "away with" only being charged a TOTAL OF $6,000 out-of-pocket for my wife's 8-day stay in Milan's Ste. Giuseppe Hospital's Intensive Care with multiple Pulmonary Embolisms to include a half dozen major tests that her Medicare is currently billed at for an average of $5,000 here in NJ today - - To recall: I went to see the Hospital Bursar with shaking hands because Medicare had then recently paid $75,000 for my 2-day local NJ hospital stay.
3. Why does Viagra, introduced 30 years ago at cost of $10/100 mg. pill, cost $45/pill today?

The above should get us started here NOW; I'm particularly interested in hearing about WHAT HAT do you think Trump will use to pull his "better than Obamacare Healthcare" plan OUT OF; Heaven FORBID that he EVER gets a chance!

Ted, I'm not accepting Trump, or anyone's proposed solution. What are you basing that on? ACA has been a disaster for millions of people. It left no negotiation rights with big pharma. There are so many flaws that impact people. This isn't about Trump verses Obama. Trump could wreck it even worse. My point is that working on replacing the train wreck would only be a positive thing, regardless of who is driving that bus.

How long ago was your out of the country trip in which your wife received excellent and inexpensive healthcare? Do you have any comprehension for how much has changed since then? We need to focus on now and the future.

Again, the US has no negotiation rights with big pharma as Canada does. It is horrible. Much of it is because of all of the corruption and pocket lining of our government agencies and elected officials.

Cheyenne,
My wife's Milan hospitalization was 8 years ago.

BUT: I, often we, personally traveled throughout Europe and Japan for 3.5 decades from 1985 through 2010: In that time I interacted with counterparts in The U.K., France, Germany, Sweden, The Netherlands and Japan. The talk over dinner often drifted to our Healthcare; from what I could determine, my wife's Milan experience is NOT unusual outside of the U.S.; we actually had personal healthcare experiences beyond Milan, in France, Japan, Austria, and Germany - - each of which confirmed what we found in Milan.

Mentally re-confirming that her 2, $150 Echocardiograms at Ste. Giuseppe's were handled as professionally as the $5,000 one she received last year at her Cardiologist's in Springfield, N.J.

FWIW: Until Biden rolled-back Insulin charges from $hundreds/month to $35, there was NO DEALING with BIG PHARMA; we agree on that.
As for the ACA: 20 million of our fellow Americans AT LEAST have some measure of Healthcare today!

It is great that insulin was rolled back. But, it is one piece of a big puzzle. It was a token to have something to brag about. The entire puzzle needs to be put together. ACA was not a good plan. Hopefully, a better solution is put into place. As I said, regardless of what any administration comes up with, it won't matter. The infighting of our incompetent, corrupt government won't allow it.

You seem to be agreeing with DJT that the ACA was not a good plan, most likely because it is too expensive for the United States Economy to afford, and would further jeopardize our mushrooming National Debt. Here's my few cents:
1. Healthcare is far too expensive, as is the insurance both to the insured and to the provider, but as I've shown a couple of times, the costs in the United States are WILDLY out of control (my wife's $6,000 Milan Hospital charge from MY WALLET for 8 days of intensive care, compared to my $75,000 charge in NJ for a 2 day relatively minor incident in a normal hospital room - - perhaps we could use some of the Socialism that rules in the places that I COINCIDENTALLY ran into in the countries that BETTER MANAGED their Healthcare!?
2. Trump did FAR MORE damage to the National Debt with his $2T tax cut for the well-off and his tariffs on Chinese manufactured goods that we import, than even the ACA could do.
3. As a well-trained Scientist who's published in technical journals in a half dozen countries worldwide, and interacted with HIGH-TECH staff in factories in 8 countries: My post-graduate 'GLOW' about "American Exceptionalism' is NOW totally faded.

Another tidbit about BIG PHARMA: Because of her Pulmonary Embolism episode in Milan, my wife is on the 'blood-thinner' Xarelto for life; in ONLY a decade the cost of her daily 20 mg. pill has gone up from $10 to its current $35 - - FWIW, it is one of the dozen drugs on Biden's 'hit-list'!

Between us AND former President Trump: 'Money doesn't grow on trees', but a lot more green has been ending up in Healthcare provider's wallets lately, MORE EVEN. today than yesterday!

For the umpteenth time, I don't give a darn what Trump has to say about my family's healthcare. I care about ACA DESTROYING my opportunity to have quality health insurance at reasonable rates. Those of us in the middle who own small businesses or are self employed got hosed. We still have to pay the same amount of taxes but they took away our right to choose our own plans. I'm getting taxation without representation, as many Americans are. It's what you seem to want and not just in regard to health insurance. Interesting that you'd accuse anyone else of being of a dictatorial mind.