Originally Posted by Cheyenne
When something is being widely reported and X is on fire with it, there is nothing wrong in relaying this and bringing it up for discussion.
Of course there is nothing wrong with it if you trust your sources.
My point is how easy it is to get people to relay a lie and once it has been relayed, how difficult it is to undo the initial comment.

Originally Posted by Cheyenne
Are you truly telling me that you did not listen to and or read Vance's words about childless women for yourself?
Yes. I told you that at the very beginning of this exchange.
I generally don't listen to political speeches or comment on the personalities of politicians.
I didn't feel the need to comment on your post--I just took your word for it.
It wasn't until I read the post by Yes_Goddess that I found out the couch story was false but I still didn't feel the need to comment on your post.
I was more concerned about the MSM tactic using "weird" to describe Vance and I did comment on that.
I wouldn't have commented on your post except a day or so later I came across the article I linked to with the headline: AP Reporter Called Out for Aiding and Abetting Kamala Harris’s Lies About JD Vance.
This sounded like the tactic of the MSM telling the listeners how to interpret what they hear such as they did with the "pussy tape."
Before I jumped in, I gave you the link to the article and asked if you found fault with it.
Did you even look at the article I linked to? You never indicated that you did so I finally resorted to taking a quote from it to have something solid that we could discuss.
You responded with: "Yes, that is a quote from which I base my opinion on how horrible Vance's exact words were."
I then asked what you found in that quote that was so horrible.
Your response was that he demeaned women who haven't had children.
I didn't see that and asked for an explanation.
You responded with a paragraph that never touched on the requested explanation.

Unable to get you to support your impression of "horrible" I'll give you my impression:
He criticized journalists (and others like them) for implying women regret having children.

If you don't feel my impression is valid, then state yours and the reasoning behind it...PLEASE.

Originally Posted by Cheyenne
How can YOU have an opinion on what Vance said if you didn't watch it for yourself?
Well when I asked you to support your opinion and you failed, I'll go with the opinion of Hannah Knudsen, the author of the article I linked to.