Originally Posted by Cheyenne
...it is so important to listen to exactly what the person in question said, from their own mouth or get direct words from their own pen in a documented source.
That is exactly what I asked of you.
You paraphrased and summarized but didn't provide the basis for your conclusions.
If I know exactly what text you are addressing, I can read it with my own perception.

In an effort to understand your point, I provided a quote that you said: "Yes, that is a quote from which I base my opinion on how horrible Vance's exact words were."
All I asked was for you to explain what was it he said in that quote that you thought was so horrible.
I gave you my interpretation and it didn't seem so horrible.
If you won't discuss a single paragraph, how do you expect to have a discussion on the bulk of his speeches and interviews?

Originally Posted by Cheyenne
{The linked article] doesn't change the words HE chose to use in the commencement speech.
Okay.
What exactly are HIS words that you object to?


Originally Posted by Cheyenne
But, we can't have a conversation about it if you don't watch speeches. It is like analyzing a football game that you didn't see.
I don't have to watch an entire football game to analyze a controversial play.

Originally Posted by Cheyenne
What I find horrible is that there are people who do not want the responsibility of having children or can't have them.
I think you misspoke here. If you didn't, I disagree with you 100 %.

Originally Posted by Cheyenne
I didn't fail to support my opinion. You are nit picking everything I say.
No. I'm struggling to get you to answer my question and support your opinion. If you can't do that for one paragraph that you contend supports your position, then why should I believe your perception on the rest?

One last time concerning that paragraph (from my earlier post):
Originally Posted by chuck in a previous post
Unable to get you to support your impression of "horrible" I'll give you my impression:
He criticized journalists (and others like them) for implying women regret having children.

If you don't feel my impression is valid, then state yours and the reasoning behind it...PLEASE.